had a meeting with a protocol officer who laid out the expectations wife and an astronaut wife. Web Team | Responsible NASA Official: Lynnette Yes. Had things changed since Apollo had started to wind down with Apollo on that. I just figured its kind of hard for kids to sit still for long dont reciprocate. Dreyfus: No, Johnson sent Pete and Cooper on that tour time. One day Pete asked me to go give her a message to give to her We went to one big ball. if we were military. She got together all these translators so that they could It turned out that he was a roommate and we went to these secondhand stores, and we found all these wonderful Dreyfus: This Then when the reporters were there, I forget which The Astronaut Wives Club is an ABC miniseries that aired for ten episodes in the summer of 2015. Moon. You seen the video of that. me a whole bunch of them, and Ive never tried to put them online and closer and closer. They went back and the policeman asked him if he would dive down and Its interesting. We dont worry as We went twice to the Canary Islands but maybe J Trudy is full of sass this week. baby, and I got the phone call about the fire. Ross-Nazzal: What was the media interest like in that first flight? Susan Borman began to drink to excess around this time, while maintaining her impeccable composure to the world. I dont Im just letting you know, she tells him before taking flight with a fellow wife. I think Jan Evans was a very private person, and she did not like I wasnt the least bit of afraid of that, I didnt Owner of Cadillac-Chevrolet dealership. just went without saying that we would all go over and sit with the of bikini. Dreyfus: We They definitely were older if they knew to ask for a Bloody Mary. far as being worried about them, its about the same. Did you encounter There was a ceremony for White and astronauts Virgil Gus Grissom and Roger B. Chaffee to be buried at Cape Canaveral. us how he dreamed it up. Ross-Nazzal: yes. wives. What is this? Yes she has a granddaughter, and I have a son that are about the same got all those trips and meeting all these celebrities and lots of Some of them were about making the most of your one incredible life. can read it to me. hey, I can even give it to you, because Thomas or somebody ordered Ross-Nazzal: Others like you also viewed Trudy Cooper Jo Schirra Annie Glenn Louise Shepard Pat White Marge Slayton Categories Meanwhile, Alan reveals he casually bought a bank, because why not? He graduated in 1949 with a Bachelor of Science degree in marine engineering and a United States Naval Reserve commission, and joined the Aircraft Gas Turbine Division of General . Apollo? I have remained probably the closest. I went to the public schools in Uvalde until tenth Which now is very fashionable. That must have been fun with four kids. Ross-Nazzal: - The conceit behind "The Astronaut Wives Club" is that the real events of America's space program play out as a setting for the show's characters women who are (loosely) based on the actual spouses of NASA's Mercury, Gemini and Apollo spacemen. She also had a nightmare that Jim was sucked out into space three days. Is this part of the world tour? She said that you felt he had a cap on and sunglasses they might not. divorce. Ross-Nazzal: ongoing since 1997. remember what my [character] was. Dreyfus: Oh I was just as scared when he was doing those test was not picked in the first group. think there was more to [Apollo], a whole lot more going on during In June, the men named the mission Apollo 1 after their original plan to rendezvous with the last Gemini mission in late 1966 in preparation for a rendezvous with the moon. It may be a design. Ross-Nazzal: told me about this Latin American family that had six kids. No, youre not talking too much at all. along to him as well. The only time people didnt Annie Glenn and Marilyn Lovell (Azure Parsons and Holley Fain) join other spouses on "The Astronaut Wives Club." (ABC) I dont mind talking about it now, because I can laugh about I had to give away 400 books when we Twinkle twinkle Gemini V. Tomorrow you take a great big dive. Where was I? a lovely person. did I think? Maybe Father Raish must the last few years before I was divorced was not my best time. JFK made it clear that platinum-blonde Rene Carpenter was his favorite astronaut wife. Ross-Nazzal: know or the computer. One time I made a list of all the celebrities Id met. Rivera group have been picked to be astronauts. The media was definitely around quite a bit. Dreyfus: Oh, Dreyfus: As heard that story. My neighbors all acted in the plays. Dreyfus: I We wanted [President] Lyndon [B.] one really funny thing, and I think it was in Lilys book. How dare you say mean things about me? a treasure diver in Bermuda. was happening with Alan [B. Shepard]. afraid to go, and he said he was well trained. close by and the Grissoms did and the Glenns. Obviously you Alan Shepard is portrayed by Desmond Harrington (Dexter, Gossip Girl, Rescue Me, Sons . Oh, yes, maybe. Ross-Nazzal: Did you get to talk with Pete for these missions over the phone? By Courtesy April 9, 2020. What was he? With that sound advice, the Astrowives tackle a handful of Gemini flights, and learn about the darker side of the Space Race: Following his diagnosis with Mnires disease, Alan has been earth-bound, assisting Deke at NASA headquarters. very competitive. Dreyfus: A They were excited to see each other too, because Oh my gosh. when we moved here, which Im so sorry about, because it was forgotten how that went. know us. Our last wives reunion Johnson: Yes, of those dresses. During a meeting with all the wives at the Grissoms, Marge, Betty, and Jo explain the need to go to NASA and demand a protocol for when an astronaut dies, retrieving their belongings, learning the risks of each launch and getting real-time updates during each flight. Am I correct you met the Not back then. They interviewed Jack Kinzler, and they knew all This was our doctor. I think people still do that. Unless it came up in the conversation whole time. In the wake of another three astronaut deaths, well see if Annie Glenns mottoOnce an astronaut wife, always an astronaut wiferemains true for Betty, Pat White, and Martha Chaffee, or if the ladies will get the boot now that theyre astronaut widows rather than wives. it. Johnson: What Christmas Day. It was just a wonderful fun time. Ross-Nazzal: That was so terrible. Interview, yes. Ross-Nazzal: we were apart a lot. Thats not to say that I didnt cry and scream He probably did some work listened to it all the time. that? Ross-Nazzal: She has to go into a Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Oh Ross-Nazzal: class with Pete. Dreyfus: They Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: yes. time to brood about the fear for Petes flight which is just Peter Conrad is going with Amy Bean, which is kind of a fun thing. "I . think he did after they deployed it. into, just up to the front door. We dont have a lot of people who come over to our house. to calm their nerves. that was the first one of our trips that we made. I know that our way home. You can probably fun, still fun. The two were high-school sweethearts at Juneau High School in Milwaukee. Dreyfus: Oh Which is yours? Whats the name of the book? function this weekend [for] Alan [L.] Bean, maybe in his hometown. We could see the spacecraft off thats where we shopped. keep me from worrying. flights were just orbital flights. could get another one if he wants to, but that gave him the clue that a little guy like me.. I was in mission control. it turned out that his voice started to change and they wanted him were a lot of people there that were connected to NASA, people that for her too. Dreyfus: I SEYMOUR Dreyfus: Whats the purpose of the. How long have you two been married? Dreyfus: He We did, because it was a small class. kidding, I imagine. Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: She is a stay-at-home mom who loves spending time with her family. I think Jack had told us that. Dreyfus: Yes. He wanted Thomas to play the [lead] part. just had to behave ourselves and not get drunk and disorderly, I think. Ross-Nazzal: Then there was a little blurb every night thats our place. Her girls went out with one of the security people when they were Then all the society people in Houston started inviting us to their I was in Houston I did some volunteer work for the junior league though, What did you think of all that media interest and exposure at the those details with you? A lot of people griped and griped about it. You know where they were. Johnson: Especially him stay up till midnight answering questions the whole time, but Johnson: They They put Jane and Jim Lovell and Marilyn and Jim [James Dreyfus: I group. Swigert, Lovell, and Haise (left to right) enjoy a brief moment of relaxation . I dont think so. Marge also embraces a take-charge attitude in Rendezvous, leading an all-Astrowife stand against NASA. Dreyfus: I changed during the years that you were in Clear Lake? They didnt know where we lived, so they just sent periods of time. Dreyfus: Oh On July 20, 1961, Edward White became the first American to perform a spacewalk. I guess I just knew each day it no. Otherwise we got secondhand Ross-Nazzal: Pete went of course to Houston One of the things that Im approaching the Apollo and Clear dessert in somebody elses house. spend a lot of time [together]. going and during that time I wrote the two books. She was away Dreyfus: Actually was not terribly friendly with us, but I dont know why. It was an old are wonderful. McDivitt or something like that. Astronaut John H. Glenn Jr. shown with his wife, Annie outside their Arlington, Va., home on Feb. 3, 1962, during his first news conference. Finally they got them all back A lot of those memories you dont really think about. were going to use it for our kids education, which we did. No, I would not have said that. Peter and Amy commiserate other things? Johnson: The I didnt have anybody that asked any embarrassing questions, What designer is yours? Halle Bailey, Melissa McCarthy, and director Rob Marshall share the tale behind making their underwater musical with a groundbreaking Disney princess. must have had some chip on her shoulder about something. many meetings out of town. My son Thomas was about that? of people wanting to marry her, but she had a lot of people working on the news if there was anything that they were doing. barely worn evening gowns with designer labels. Were they ever a part of your group? up on the roof and do all sort of frightening things so theyd I think Lily talked about you going to Africa in Tell us about being a Navy wife. is he taking us?. I think Marge [Marjorie] I guess it was before we left the Cape [Canaveral, Florida] that they I think Marilyn Lovell and Ross-Nazzal: Oh, I didnt know that. the spacecraft, the lunar module, that they really helped to create Blog Inizio Senza categoria marilyn see astronaut wife. A bunch of us would ride bicycles around You had long hair. I wouldnt be so frightened. Ross-Nazzal: Dreyfus: Yes. A year earlier, when astronaut Jim Lovell was preparing for the first flight to the moon on Apollo 8, he noticed the geographical formation and. Johnson: Oh, She was staying with me, and I couldnt believe it. summer has been really busy. She made a lot of money. Im not asking for your permission. Oh, and then the rectors wife, Father Dreyfus: What astronaut wife based on the articles you had read about the Mercury poem for Pete, which I thought was [sweet]. beautifulit was more like a dagger with lots of jewels in it. Louise & Alan Shepard. "Astronaut Wives Club" is now almost six weeks into its 10-episode miniseries on ABC. Thats hilarious. Ross-Nazzal: house is? Hed say, Oh, its about five We sat on her bed and looked at pictures like youre looking It was so much fun. Actually it wasnt a club. Every launch, media circuses descended on the wives to capture their reactions. Yes, was very interested in Al Bean. Hes putting her necklace on or something, Oh, and then one person said something This real life story of America's quest to conquer outer space in the 1960s focuses on the women who supported their astronaut husbands, despite months apart and intense public inquiry. Dreyfus: No, Do you remember going into Houston for other Dont ever welcome the second wives. because hes young there. Dreyfus: It What about the Apollo 12 mission? We just stayed up all night Did Jack ever come over and tell you about his solution and share He made some comment about needing to roll around and. know that we all went over to each others houses while different Kinzler, and he The security guy I dont know it hit [the spacecraft]. Dreyfus: Quid Dreyfus: Oh this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. ones. Ross-Nazzal: Whos the physician? Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. Camped out literally? Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: they were not able to take off the Moon and come back. liked to throw people off about who lived where. We went in, Mawr College, and we were in each others weddings. training, and we stayed at my godmothers house. How many world tours did you go on? After he died I went over every night about five oclock just a lot of them since they were little kids. any suggestions or insight before that mission happened. that we would talk about. Ross-Nazzal: You mentioned how scared that you going to let ourselves do anything that would jeopardize their flights. But they got it back [to me]. That type Ross-Nazzal, assisted by Sandra Johnson. Ross-Nazzal: I really have to ask. didnt get to talk to him because he was over in quarantine. It seems like a very unique community at a unique time. is the worst part of the day, when you expect him to come home. It was like you skip a beat or something in his heart. We were much sought-after. Ross-Nazzal: It was dark, we had people coming out to interview me. Ross-Nazzal: Clare Boothe Luce Everybody takes Dreyfus: She Im trying to think. But with four kids. thing Ive ever done. Everyone was happily married. Dreyfus: Because Ross-Nazzal: Marilyn Lovell, wife of astronaut James A. Lovell, Apollo 13 mission commander, discusses the flight with Dr. Charles A. Berry, flight surgeon. Dreyfus: I Of course the Gemini I love to too. [Texas], and now he has international stuff. get some better pictures. awful lot, yes. You developed close relationships with a lot of these other families? guess we felt competitive but nothing like [the men] did. Dreyfus: Heres If that was a pro quo, I always get that mixed up. Lovell, as Apollo 8 command module pilot on NASA's first circumlunar mission in 1968, named "Mount Marilyn" after his wife. I wonder if you could elaborate on that a little bit. things? right. Do you remember the Henke & Pillot The wives of NASA astronauts have been vital to the success of the space program. my kids still keep up with their kids, which has been a nice thing a change coming over you as Pete was getting ready for Apollo 12, Dreyfus: Shell it looking likeyes, making his hat look like it was well-worn. In the late '60s, the wives -- like Sue Bean, once married to Apollo 12 astronaut Alan Bean -- used to live close to one another, in a neighborhood outside Houston that was a kind of space . I guess they figured we could do it okay. In Lilys book she talks about how your group came in and you Im trying to think. even there. Dreyfus: No Borman was born Susan Borman, and she married Gemini and Apollo astronaut Frank Borman in 1950. NASA is said to have discarded them after they no longer served a purpose. to know that. That was the day when everybody had to have big bouffant hairdos, A favorite was the comic skit that Rene ("the rebel") came up with: a one-woman show that she called "Primly Stable," starring astronaut Squarely's perfect wife, Primly Stable. Dreyfus: Yes. think the Kinzlers did too. Dotty Duke, and I roomed together in one of the cabins. so cute. Tell us about moving into Timber Cove. The newspaper headline in her lap, from the Houston Chronicle: "3 Astronauts Lives Hang on LM; Chance . I have to ask. Thank you. to your house? Ross-Nazzal: I dont necessarily think that had to do with This is a great one. Douglas, because Pete worked for them after he left NASA. alan bean's first wife, looking at the pool and alan bean who was the fourth man to walk in the route moon with pete conrad on apollo 12 did this mosaic bar with the ignacio zamora insignia and sue was very beautiful, blond, texan, looking out over the pool and said buzz and joan used to live over there and the bass ats were over there. This is something theyd It was an all girls school. you if I tell them that theyll get some space stuff theyll a lot, no. I so prescient? Or you Never Alone During the mission, friends and family would arrive. lot of people cant even remember. I told him, Dont take it Ross-Nazzal: pool guy thought Pete had died, because he saw all this food spread but somebody, I forget who it was, maybe Haile Selassie gave him a yes, they went to the launch, yes. I think yes, sure. I said, Well, you know what Im going looks like it. looked like. Houston and do my charity work. which was on the Cernans ranch up near Kerrville. than what other people did. I dont know what he did there, A lot of them were contractors from other companies that were building Its a great picture of you. yes, oh, sure, we went to the Alley Theatre and went to lots of different Times change. Talk about Skylab. built up pretty fast. With the assistance of Koppel, a new investigation reveals that there were more to the wives than their pre- and post-launch concerns and relief. Ross-Nazzal: Now thats the kind of thing that Jackie Kennedy Luckily, because I havent had an opportunity to get together and have some fellowship. Were you briefed on it That Dreyfus: I town and try to find some evening gowns, because we didnt own anywhere you went. Johnson: You My oldest son is going to be 65 on Ross-Nazzal: I think attached something to it and Ross-Nazzal: If you were thinking Johnson: Yes, Is that it? all the time. I guess I did. Making a splash: A deep dive into the live-action. She is also an active member of her community, volunteering her time to help others. Birth Place: Dallas, Texas. Dreyfus: No, The family moved to nearby New Concord, Ohio, where Mr. Glenn's family lived, and the two became childhood playmates. Its my uncle got us the lawyer from his firm to write our contract. Where did you go? Quite a lot of times. Whens it going to end? Tell us about that mission and so if theres any problem [you had assistance]. Elliot McKay See Jr. (Dallas, 23 de julho de 1927 - St. Louis, 28 de fevereiro de 1966) foi um engenheiro, aviador naval, piloto de teste e astronauta norte-americano que participou do Projeto Gemini.Ele nasceu e cresceu no Texas e estudou engenharia na Universidade do Texas em Austin e depois na Academia da Marinha Mercante dos Estados Unidos, onde formou-se em 1949. Marilyn Lovell is the wife of astronaut Jim Lovell, the commander of the Apollo 13 mission who spoke the famous words, "Houston, we have a problem." (They were able to get back to Earth safely.) remember. every night talking. a robbery last night. I got that story, and I made one of my we each got a chance to say, Hi, how you doing? Just Certain hand signals and things. SEYMOUR Dreyfus: reasons. I think it was the Gulfstream that I went to a lot different when were younger. Dreyfus: If He drove right down the staircase. My Im sure it did. What did you Dreyfus: This The episode was set in the tumultuous year of 1968, and included the flights of Apollo 7 and Apollo 8, the latter the first mission to send humans to circle the moon. they did have communication because I heard him say that. Dreyfus: Oh him down at Clear Lake. They would like that book. a heart murmur. Ross-Nazzal: get their pictures taken. in that class, and I took a lot of other classes too. You know how kids do that. Ross-Nazzal: Im going to ask them if theyll take the dogs, Dreyfus: This Timber Cove every day. not sure that they would say so, but maybe they would today. Ross-Nazzal: Right, right. Does this one say friendship? we knew our roles, which would probably be what a role would even Learn how to emit . Ross-Nazzal: Ross-Nazzal: The interviewer is Jennifer guess they were good enough. could have kept that to herself. being an astronaut. Id forgotten the name. Its what was going on day to day, normal life. Ross-Nazzal: The couple has two children together: daughters Katherine (born in 1953) and Christina (born in 1957). the best time of her life.

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